Episode 90 – Justin Brierley


In this episode we chat with Justin Brierley, host of the very popular Premier Unbelievable? podcast. 

We’d really enjoyed this chat with Justin, but we didn’t get to cover many of the questions that we gathered, so we will ask and try to have him back again.

We cover a little bit of his show and we also talk about arguments for Christianity and why people leave Christianity.

Listen to (or watch) Matthew’s appearance on Unbelievable?


Andrew on Unbelievable? discussing the book Still Unbelievable!


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Episode 75 – Casey Luskin is Unbelievable!


Matthew examines the claims of Casey Luskin on a recent episode of the Unbelievable? podcast.

Casey Luskin:

1) https://www.discovery.org/p/luskin/

Adam Shapiro

2) https://www.americanscientist.org/author/adam_shapiro

3) https://www.discovery.org/b/comprehensive-guide-to-science-and-faith/

Extreme functional sensitivity to conservative amino acid changes on enzyme exteriors

4) https://doi.org/10.1006/jmbi.2000.3997

Estimating the Prevalence of Protein Sequences Adopting Functional Enzyme Folds

5) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8389796_Estimating_the_Prevalence_of_Protein_Sequences_Adopting_Functional_Enzyme_Folds

6) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Josephson

7) https://ncse.ngo/list-steves

8) http://nebula.wsimg.com/e4f4b2bb26ebae17e962d71647af66f2?AccessKeyId=A6FBFFFE99B075CE040A&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

9) http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.pdf

10) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-61586-y

11) https://www.jmtour.com/

12) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41576-021-00417-w

13) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6195259/#pone.0202513.ref001

14) https://evolutionnews.org/2020/01/meyer-on-nested-coding-another-successful-design-prediction/

15) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegfried_Scherer

16) (PDF) https://bio-complexity.org/ojs/index.php/main/article/download/BIO-C.2018.2/BIO-C.2018.2

17) (PDF) https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.84.17.6195

18) https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Is-Intelligent-Design-advancing-or-in-retreat-Casey-Luskin-Adam-Shapiro

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Podcast: How should the church respond to Transgender

Recently I was a host on the Still Unbelievable! talking about transgender and the church. This episode is responding to an episode of the Unbelievable? podcast on the same subject.

The Transformed document that is referenced in the episode is found here: https://www.eauk.org/resources/what-we-offer/reports/transformed-understanding-transgender-in-a-changing-culture/transformed-the-resource

It’s a shocking document and I recommend reading this critique of it: http://mikehigton.org.uk/a-critique-of-transformed-1/

Reasonpress site launch and a Book that I’m very Excited About

I hope the title of this post isn’t seen as click-bait because it’s all true. I am excited and it is about a book and a website , but it’s also more than that.

For the past year I have been involved in a collaborative project to get a book out, it’s been running under the title of The response Book Project and it’s gone live and there are plans to expand the site into something more. The something more will have to wait for now, this post is about the book.

But first the link, the curious can click this link and come back here for the boring bits later.




It all began with a Christian radio show and podcast called Unbelievable? I’ve been a regular listener for a number of years, as are many atheists. It’s the only religious podcast I regularly listen to, because it is generally interesting, relaxed and stimulating to listen to. Details can be found at the link below:


Last year, the host of the show released a book to state why, after ten years of hosting the show and talking to atheists, he was still a Christian. The book was officially launched at the Unbelievable? conference in London and I attended, along with a handful of other atheists to get our hands on the first copies of the book so that the response project could get underway. On balance we were not all that impressed. It seems that talking to atheists does not involve listening to them.

Find the book here, if you dare:



What now?

Well, the site is not intended to be a static site. All the chapters of the response book are free to read on the site and there is a Discus comment block under each one so the hope is that there will be a chance to take the response further and have an active back and forth and not a stale opinion page. There are plans to extend the site beyond just this response book, but those ideas will have to wait until they are made real before I announce them here. For now it’s just the book and that’s about all the excitement I can contain anyway.

A Personal Update

It’s been a while since I gave a personal update, so for those who are interested, here it comes.

I continue to engage in discussion with theists, mostly on facebook in a closed group that exists for that purpose. My experience so far is that reasonable Christians who are prepared to engage with atheists who will directly challenge their beliefs are vastly outnumbered by those who prefer to throw insults and avoid addressing direct challenges. I think this is a feature of the medium being used rather than a true slice of the Christian demographic.

The interface theism and atheism continues to interest me and so I have booked myself to go to the following Christian conference in a week.


Unbelievable? is a weekly UK Christian radio show that focuses on that interface and is pretty much the only religious themed show I listen to. I download the podcast version each weekend.

I am disappointed that the conference based on the show does not have any atheist or non Christian speakers. I am looking forward to hearing what the Christian speakers have to say about atheism and atheists. I am expecting to hear them confidently state what it is that atheists think and believe and I am expecting these projections to not match my own thoughts and ideas. I am stating this up front because it is a common experience I have when Christian leaders talk on the subject. Let’s see how right I am!

I am considering tweeting my thoughts during the event, we shall see. I’m not a big twitter user, so it would likely increase my number of tweets ten fold!

Specifically, I am interested in hearing the talk by Justin Brierley; he is the host of the Unbelievable? radio show and he’s written a book titled “Why after ten years of talking with atheists I am still a Christian”. I am expecting to that I’ll be buying a copy since it’ll be launched at the event. I am also interested in hearing what John Lennox has to say about the case for god, he was on the Unbelievable? a month or so ago and his argument consisted of a list of assertions without evidence, I wonder if the talk will be any different.

Do any of those seminars pique your interest? Which, if any would you go to and what questions would you ask?

I took a big step on my facebook page over Easter last month. I got bored of seeing the same comment item from the UK’s Telegraph newspaper, I can’t find the item right now but it essentially gave a serious of arguments why we should believe the bible account of Jesus, his crucifixion and subsequent resurrection. So many of my Christian friends shared it that I put up a post linking to a counter list of arguments poking at all the holes and showing why it is valid to question the bible accounts of Jesus. It’s the first time I have been that blatant. I’m not aware that it’s lost me any friends, and I didn’t get as many bites as I expected, but there was some comment and one person in particular has said he wants to have a conversation on the subject. It’s someone I respect so we’ll see what results.

Away from religion I continue to try to write, I have a handful of fiction projects I want to work on, progress is too slow because time is hard to find. I am also looking forward to visiting the great Canadian state of Ontario later in the year. It’s been about 15 years since I saw Niagara Falls and I am looking forward to seeing them again.